A 5F tube to plate weld test is sometimes used to qualify for fillet welds like socket welds.
A 5F test usually qualifies for all positions depending on the welding code.
Some procedures allow for a downhill root for open root pipe or plate.
With a gap, a downhill root works
Downhill short circuit mig welding on anything thicker than 1/8" can easily result in lack of fusion.
With short circuit mig, open roots work very well with either downhill or uphill mig provided correct techniques and settings are used.
Pipe shops often use procedures with downhill root and then switch to uphill fill and cap.
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Welding vertical uphill (3G) with short circuit MIG is tricky because gravity works against you. To get good penetration, fusion, and a consistent bead profile, you need to fine-tune voltage and wire speed carefully
1. Voltage Settings – Lower than Flat or Horizontal Welding
Why?
How to Adjust:
✅ Use lower voltage than flat/horizontal welding.
✅ Typical voltage range: 17V to 20V (depends on wire size and material thickness).
✅ Start lower and increase slightly if the arc feels unstable.
2. Wire Speed Settings – Balanced for Control and Fusion
Why?
How to Adjust:
✅ Use a moderate wire speed (lower than flat/horizontal welding).
✅ Typical range: Depends on thickness and wire diameter. But often times you can use mig chart settings for one or two lower thickness.
✅ If the arc stubs into the puddle, increase voltage or decrease wire speed slightly.
✅ If the arc is too long or erratic, decrease voltage or increase wire speed slightly.
3. Additional Tips for Vertical Uphill MIG Welding
✔ Use a Short Stickout (⅜” to ½”) – Too long = inconsistent arc & spatter.
✔ Use a a technique that keeps the arc on the leading edge of the puddle (upside down V or Triangle Motion) – Helps with good penetration
✔ use a slight push Angle (~10° Upward)
✔ Use the Right Shielding Gas (75/25 Ar-CO₂ for short circuit mig) – Provides a stable arc and good penetration.